HAZARD CLASS
HC0045 - John Esposito - FDNY Chief of Department
In the Season 2 premiere of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake sits down with John Esposito, Chief of Department for the FDNY, for an intimate and wide-ranging discussion on leadership, legacy, and the realities of life in one of the world’s busiest fire departments. From 9/11 reflections and the evolution of FDNY to the traits of impactful leaders and memorable fireground moments, Chief Esposito shares hard-earned wisdom and never-before-heard stories that offer rare insight into the heart of New York’s Bravest.
Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:0:00 – 2:45 | Intro & 9/11 Reflections
Jake introduces Chief Esposito and shares a personal 9/11 memory.
Chief discusses how 9/11 reshaped the FDNY and the lasting impact on the department’s culture and capabilities.
2:46 – 6:00 | The FDNY’s National Influence
How FDNY’s decisions ripple across the American Fire Service.
Lessons learned through innovation and trial by fire.
6:01 – 12:00 | Staying Connected to the Streets
Chief Esposito explains how he maintains real-time awareness of field operations.
Insights on technology, communication systems, and his use of Citizen App.
12:01 – 14:26 | Origins & Career Beginnings
Why Esposito joined the FDNY in 1991.
Reflections on becoming a firefighter and the influence of Report from Engine Co. 82.
14:27 – 18:00 | First Fire & Early Lessons
Vivid recollection of his first fire.
Thoughts on preparation, performance, and the emotional charge of that first job.
18:01 – 21:15 | Transition to Special Operations
Moving to Squad 18 and working with elite fire personnel.
The rigorous process and mindset behind making the switch.
21:16 – 25:35 | Training Culture & Tough Calls
The philosophy of consistent, adaptive training.
Real-world example: A Bronx rescue where plan B wasn’t good enough—they needed plan E.
25:36 – 30:04 | Memories of Andy Fredericks
Personal stories and heartfelt tribute to a fire service legend.
A hilarious and humbling hydrant mishap involving Fredericks.
30:05 – 33:25 | Climbing the Ranks
Post-9/11 promotions and unexpected career trajectory.
How staying ready allowed him to rise in leadership.
33:26 – 36:32 | Leadership & Morale
The most important traits in fire service leadership.
Balancing empathy, accountability, and understanding your people.
36:33 – 38:08 | Caring for Morale
Where morale comes from and how leaders must foster it.
Real-life examples of FDNY’s finest doing heroic work.
38:09 – 40:00 | Pride & Purpose
What Chief Esposito is most proud of in his career.
Doing the right thing in gray-area decisions.
40:01 – 41:21 | The Stupid Question Returns
OG question: Who would win in a fight—grizzly, tiger, or gorilla?
Fun and lighthearted close with reflections on strength and instinct.





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