Host Jay Ferracane sits down with renowned graphic designers and artists Todd Berger and Lucian Föhr (Berger & Föhr) to discuss the balance of design and art within their studio, the nature of their creative partnership, and the importance of the space and community in which they work. Recorded in front of a live audience on June 7, 2024.

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Opening theme music from Snappy Little Numbers, show music from Coupe Studios.