The HazMat Guys: Archives

THMG514a – TITLE
We caught up with Dave Godin and Joe Gallo from 908 Devices to chat about their brand new VipIR. Bob and Mike dig into where this tool fits in the world of gas detection, how first responders can use it, and whether it could replace the standard four-gas meter. Tune in to get the full scoop on what the VipIR can do.
HazMatters: If you’ve been living under a rock, here’s your wake-up call: we're crisscrossing the continent every week, delivering top-tier training (just ask J.M. POWERS). Don’t let your agency fall behind—get in on the action. Got a specific course in mind? Submit a training request, and our team will reach out. Not sure yet? Schedule a chat with our kick-ass sales team to get exactly what your crew needs. Skip the theory-only providers (IFYKYK). Get trained by people who’ve been in the field for more than 5 minutes—let’s take your team to the next level.
Download our course catalog here.
Click here for 1-pagers on each course.
Vendors: Want to advertise on this podcast or any of the other shows under our umbrella? Request more information to make some moves on this market and see how we can help put your company in front of the right eyeballs. We’ve got options that’ll fit your needs, big or small—just check out our ad comparison chart in the sponsor section for more details. Let’s get your message out there.
PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP: You know you deserve more. Picture this... the hazmat equivalent of the champagne room. Full access to 10 years of weekly shows, exclusive resources, early releases, and even a monthly happy hour with the crew. It’s the ultimate backstage pass to everything we’ve got. Ready to join the club? Sign up as a premium member now and make it official.
Sick of Lame Online Training?
Yeah, we were too. So we fixed it. You’re welcome. Now you can take a course you won’t just survive—you’ll actually want to brag about it. Check out our online courses.
Hey BOOK NERDs!
Our latest book, Building A Hazmat Team just dropped. Grab it while it’s on sale for the next few weeks.
Need More? Complete your set here:
NHERD2 (National Hazmat Emergency Response Drills)
New Shows Under the Haz Mat Guys Media Umbrella:
Conference, You Say?
You know us at The HazMat Guys—never satisfied with the status quo. We’re all about bringing the freshest products, tech, and training to YOU, our hazmat community. Our latest obsession? Conferences. Sure, many are average, a few are good, but we’re aiming to make one that’s great. Mark your calendars: February 3-5, 2026.
Introducing... The Southern Most Hazmat Conference!
Get ready for something a little different, a lot more exciting, and definitely worth the trip. Registration is open filling up quick. Click HERE to book your spot today!
Grab Some SWAG
Support THMG, Hazard Class, HMAF, and more with some killer swag. Shop now.
Follow us on the socials:
Thanks for listening and watching!
Don’t just get on the job, get into it.™
Episode Overview
In this forward-looking episode, the crew is joined by Joe Gallo and Dave Godin from 908 Devices to discuss their latest innovation — the VipIR, a groundbreaking combination of FTIR and Raman spectroscopy in one smart device. Unlike other duct-taped tech solutions, the Viper’s dual-sensor system actually communicates internally to give responders real-time, accurate chemical identification from a single sample.
The conversation also explores the broader 908 ecosystem, including the MX908 and ExplorIR, and how these tools work together to support hazmat professionals from trace detection to bulk ID in any operational scenario.
Segment Breakdown & Timestamps
(0:18 – 1:55) Introductions & Background
Joe and Dave from 908 Devices join the show; recapping a busy year with key team additions and product developments.
(1:56 – 3:23) What Is the VipIR?
Introduction to the VipIR and why it’s different: FTIR + Raman tech working collaboratively, not independently.
(3:23 – 4:55) Behind the VipIR’s Intelligence
How the algorithms mimic expert back-and-forth to produce stronger, more reliable results.
(4:55 – 6:27) Sampling Breakthrough: One Sample, Two Analyses
Single sampling interface eliminates variability, especially crucial with complex mixtures.
(6:28 – 8:16) Workflow & Safety
Why FTIR runs first: safety screening before Raman use due to laser concerns. Details of the spectral processing and Raman interaction through the same ATR.
(8:16 – 10:22) Tool Ecosystem Philosophy
How VipIR fits with the MX908 and ExplorIR – a mission-dependent approach where each tool complements the others.
(10:23 – 12:24) From One Tool to Full Toolbox
908’s evolution from standalone to integrated solutions and mission-based training instead of device-only training.
(12:24 – 14:21) ExplorIR & Airborne Threats
ExplorIR's role in identifying invisible vapor threats and how it’s transformed atmospheric monitoring.
(14:21 – 16:31) Software & Connectivity
Team Leader app for real-time monitoring, wireless uploads, fleet management, and remote review of spectra.
(16:32 – 18:00) Should ExplorIR Replace a 4-Gas Meter?
A nuanced discussion: ExplorIR’s advantages, but multi-gas meters still necessary for intrinsic safety and basic operator safety data.
(18:00 – 21:51) Training, SOPs, & Evolution in the Field
How 908’s training evolves based on user feedback and shifting hazmat best practices.
(21:52 – 23:34) Reachback: Still Relevant?
Reachback remains a crucial tool for uncertain cases, especially with 24/7 access to chemists and hazmat SMEs.
(23:36 – 25:27) Why “Viper”?
The name symbolizes FTIR (IR), Raman (two fangs), and the triple-threat of smart spectral processing.
(25:28 – 26:33) Where to Learn More
Links, contact info, and event appearances.
Resource Links
- Website: 908devices.com
- Email: info@908devices.com
- Team Leader App: Available on mobile platforms
- 908 Events Page – See where they’ll be next!