In this episode of The TRAITS Podcast, host Mark sits down with Bob Outhwaite, a seasoned leader with a career spanning law enforcement, oil and gas, and executive forums for top CEOs. Together, they explore what truly drives leadership willingness to change—and why this single quality often separates good leaders from great ones.

Bob’s leadership journey began in the RCMP, where he learned powerful lessons about resilience, accountability, and second chances. These experiences shaped his belief that while personality is naturally resistant to change, willingness remains the greatest indicator that change is possible. From officers to executives, he’s seen that transformation doesn’t come from pressure—it begins with choice.

The conversation dives deep into how leaders evolve through self-awareness and honest feedback. Bob recalls moments where direct but caring feedback challenged him to reflect, adapt, and grow—illustrating how effective feedback can spark lasting transformation. As he shares, “Willingness to change is the only indicator that change is possible.” For him, vulnerability isn’t weakness—it’s a mark of strength and emotional maturity.

Listeners will gain insight into:

• Why trust is the foundation of feedback—and how to build it with your team.
• How great leaders foster psychological safety, allowing their people to express honest perspectives.
• The difference between leaders who only change in crisis and those who evolve through self-reflection.
• How to identify who’s truly coachable in hiring and leadership development.
• The importance of good counsel—surrounding yourself with people who tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.

Bob also discusses his work with forum groups—spaces for CEOs and executives to connect, share challenges, and receive unfiltered perspective from trusted peers. His story reminds us that leadership is not about knowing it all, but about being open to learn.

Mark closes the episode with reflection questions for listeners:

• How vulnerable are you?
• How open are you to change?
• Who do you trust to give you honest feedback?
• How do you handle criticism or challenge?

This episode will resonate with anyone navigating leadership, change management, or personal development. It’s an inspiring reminder that the willingness to change is not just an attitude—it’s a leadership advantage.

0:00 Introduction to the episode

2:35 – An early career in the RCMP

7:00 – Do people really change?

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