In the podcast episode titled "From Carnal Living to Kingdom Mindedness," hosts Michael and Teresa Blaes and co-host Valarie Rocha, discuss the concept of the two kingdoms: the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. The episode begins with an introductory announcement about the urgency of the spiritual battle in the world today, calling Christians to be vigilant and strong.

Teresa opens the conversation by introducing the topic, asking Val to elaborate on the idea of being spiritually minded versus carnally minded. Val explains that being spiritually minded means actions that glorify God, while being carnally minded focuses on self-gratification. Michael contributes by referencing Revelation 3:16 about being lukewarm in faith, and Teresa links it to walking in the spirit to avoid fulfilling the desires of the flesh.

The discussion shifts to the problem of believers attending church but living like the world outside of it. Michael attributes this to a lack of discipleship, emphasizing that new Christians often receive little guidance on how to live as believers. Val adds that attendees often participate in church activities without truly applying what they learn, suggesting that discipleship should involve mentoring and engaging believers outside of church.

Michael uses a metaphor about parenting to explain that new Christians, like children, need mentorship and correction. Val discusses the importance of helping others and the misconceptions surrounding discipleship, stating that it doesn't require formal training but can start with simple acts of kindness and prayer.

Teresa poses a question to listeners who may feel stuck in a carnal lifestyle, prompting Michael to advise them to have a heartfelt conversation with God and seek mentorship. Val agrees and emphasizes taking small steps towards spiritual growth and the importance of mutual encouragement among believers.

The conversation continues with the theme of hearing God’s voice amidst worldly distractions. Val mentions the need for patience and quiet time to hear God clearly, while Michael discusses recognizing the source of various influences: the self, the enemy, or God.

Towards the end of the episode, they address how pastors can build a church focused on kingdom foundations, with Michael recommending assigning new believers to experienced mentors immediately. Val stresses that teaching should be rooted in the Word of God, and both hosts encourage listeners to explore deeper spiritual truths.

The episode concludes with Teresa inviting listeners to join an upcoming Bible study, while Michael shares about Val's resources. They encourage interaction from the audience about topics they want to hear discussed and invite prayer requests, ending with a friendly sign-off.