The Mike Litton Experience

The Mike Litton Experience


Gladys Knight & The Pips: Untold Stories, Motown Secrets & Legacy with Dr. Dhyana Ziegler

October 02, 2025

In this exclusive episode of The Mike Litton Experience, we sit down with the award-winning author, Emmy-nominated journalist, and cultural historian Dr. Dhyana Ziegler for an unforgettable conversation about one of music’s most legendary groups: Gladys Knight & The Pips.

From humble beginnings in Atlanta church choirs to the glitz of Motown and Buddha Records, Dr. Ziegler takes us behind the curtain of a 37-year music legacy — revealing personal, never-before-heard stories about the group’s rise, the people who shaped them, and the challenges they faced in an industry that often exploited Black talent.

Dr. Ziegler, a professor, Presidential appointee, and decorated storyteller, shares not only the group’s powerful journey but also how family, faith, and cultural excellence drove their success. This isn’t just about music — it’s about legacy, resilience, and the harmony of spirit.

Whether you’re a lifelong fan of soul and Motown, a music history buff, or simply love inspiring stories — this is an episode you can’t afford to miss.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE:

  • The real story behind Gladys Knight & The Pips’ beginnings

  • How Marguerite Mays, Charlie Atkins & Bobby Robinson shaped the group’s path

  • Motown’s inner workings and why Gladys Knight was hesitant to join

  • How Dr. Ziegler preserved their legacy through award-winning storytelling

  • The cultural power of music in bridging divides — from America to South Africa

  • And why this story deserves its place alongside The Temptations & Jackson 5

Don’t miss this powerful journey through Black music history — told by someone who lived it.

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