The National University Podcast

The National University Podcast


Navigating Healthcare Complexities with Systems Thinking

August 06, 2024

Can healthcare leaders transform their approach by thinking like systems engineers? Join us as we uncover the fascinating world of systems thinking with the insightful Dr. Mary McHugh. With her extensive background in nursing and education, Dr. McHugh is on a mission to revolutionize the way nurses provide care. She helps us decode what exactly constitutes a system, using vivid examples from human biology, such as the interaction between hormones and tissues and the evolving relationship between cancer and the immune system. The conversation challenges the traditional linear cause-and-effect model, encouraging healthcare professionals to anticipate both expected and unintended outcomes in their interventions.


In our discussion, we emphasize the principles of systems thinking, focusing on the dynamic complexity within healthcare systems. Dr. McHugh explains how visual tools like flow charts can aid in system analysis, helping to map out the interconnectedness of components. We delve into the limitations of linear thinking and highlight the importance of feedback loops in making informed decisions. Through compelling examples from technology, healthcare, and industry, this episode underscores the necessity of addressing systemic problems holistically, rather than blaming individual errors. Tune in to explore how embracing systems thinking can lead to more effective and compassionate healthcare leadership.