Trauma Hiders Club Podcast

Trauma Hiders Club Podcast


The Great Unconformity: Living a Life of Gratitude and Kindness with Rev Rachel Hollander

September 09, 2021

Reverend Rachel Hollander is many things: an interfaith minister, singer, songwriter, officiate, and counselor—and she’s on a mission to help people navigate a life of depression. She fulfills this mission through a variety of her work, including Choose Again: A Journey to Wholeness, a performance piece that recounts her adventures (and misadventures) in a life with depression, and the podcast, I Wasn’t Always Like This. Her book, From There to Here: An Insider’s Guide to Navigating the Darkness, is a collection of her thoughts and insights shining a light into the shadows of living with chronic depression.


Rachel joins me today to discuss gratitude and kindness, as well as what cherishing them entails. She shares what inspired her to maintain gratitude and explains why she tries to be kind. She differentiates gratitude from “guilty” gratitude, defines what “spiritual bypassing” means, and explains why gratitude can often sound like glossing over pain. She also underscores how her spiritual path and gratitude mutually support each other and highlights why it’s important to cherish and protect gratitude.


“I’ve been shown such great kindness in my life that I feel it is my joyous and sweet obligation to be kind.” - Rev. Rachel Hollander


This week on the Trauma Hiders Club Podcast:

  • What gratitude means
  • Writing on a “fuckery” journal and what spiritual bypassing means
  • How gratitude can come off as glossing over pain
  • What “guilty grateful” is and why it’s not helpful for anyone
  • The beginning of Rachel’s gratitude practice
  • The cost of living without an awareness of gratitude
  • How to remain grateful in an environment that isn’t
  • Rachel’s three karmic tasks and the importance of kindness
  • The challenge of not being judgmental toward other people
  • How to see people as gifts regardless of their predisposition
  • The Great Unconformity and how gratitude and darkness can coexist
  • How Rachel’s spiritual path fosters her gratitude


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