Are MSPs hitting a growth ceiling, and what's driving founders to seek buyouts at their peak? Host Connor Swalm and special guest Wes Spencer, co-founder of Empath, discuss why MSPs struggle to expand beyond $10-12 million in revenue and how Empath is rewriting the rules with innovative training methods.

This episode will challenge your perceptions and inspire new strategies for MSP success, from debunking outdated training methods to decoding the mysteries of venture capital's role in industry evolution.

In This Episode:

• Challenges Faced by MSPs
• Solutions Offered by Empath
• Growth and Scalability Issues in MSPs
• Importance of Employee Education and Training
• Lessons from Chick-fil-A and KPI Simplification

MSP Cyber Security Stages: https://20473267.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/20473267/Empath%20MSP%20Cyber%20Maturity%20Journey.png

Connect with Wes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wesspencer/

Check out Empath: https://empathmsp.com/

Want to find out more about Security Awareness Training? Check out Phin Securities: https://www.phinsec.io/

Connect with Connor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-swalm/