Joe Giove is the director of business operations in the Office of Carbon Management for the U.S. Department of Energy. Among his many duties, Giove is a mentor for the Mickey Leland Energy Fellowship, a 10-week summer research fellowship for undergraduate and graduate students in STEM majors. In this episode, Giove and host Michael Holtz discuss his role at DOE, the MLEF program and the important role such programs play in the development of a scientific career, and the value of mentorship from the perspective of being a mentee and a mentor. A lot of ground get covered during this great conversation. To learn more about the Mickey Leland Energy Fellowship, visit https://orise.orau.gov/mlef/