Foreign tourists are expected to pay an additional $100 fee to visit select national parks next year, in addition to facing a steeper price for a national parks annual pass, keeping step with Trump’s focus on putting Americans first.

The Spectator P.M. Podcast hosts Ellie Gardey Holmes and Lyrah Margo debate whether or not this additional cost will benefit our national parks. While Lyrah argues that this could potentially decrease the amount of visitors, Ellie explains how this will provide extra funds to maintain and preserve the parks’ natural beauty. Tune in to hear their discussion!