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Late last week, a judge in New York ruled that former President Donald Trump would have to shell over $350 million to appeal a ruling on real estate fraud. The details of the case may be difficult to sort out, but Americans don’t seem to have a problem determining exactly what is going on in New York: A bunch of authoritarian liberals are trying to silence the opposition. On today’s episode of The Spectacle podcast, hosts Melissa Mackenzie and Scott McKay are joined by senior editor and resident American Spectator Trump expert Jeffrey Lord. They discuss the court case and the disaster it spells for the New York legal system, as well as the massive and ongoing exodus of tax-paying New Yorkers from the state. Read Jeff’s latest column on the reaction of New York truckers here and tune in to catch the conversation!