Explore: A Canadian Geographic podcast

Explore: A Canadian Geographic podcast


Episode 100: Diving into the Darkness with Jill Heinerth

March 18, 2025

In this milestone 100th episode of the Explore Podcast, host David McGuffin welcomes back world-renowned cave diver and RCGS Explorer-in-Residence Jill Heinerth. This episode dives into Heinerth’s experiences, including her new, award-winning documentary Diving into the Darkness, her extraordinary career in underwater exploration and the risks and rewards of diving. Heinerth discusses her Antarctic expeditions, her struggle with decompression sickness, and the evolution of her exploration philosophy over the years. The conversation also touches on the challenges of making documentaries in the current media environment, the impact of climate change narratives and the importance of valuing and understanding our natural world. Additionally, Heinerth emphasizes the need for flexibility, multi-skilling and ethical exploration in today's changing world. 


To learn more about her documentary, visit divingintothedarkness.com


00:00 Introduction to Jill Heinerth's diving adventures

01:01 Celebrating 100 episodes of the Explore Podcast

04:52 Introducing Jill Heinerth's new documentary

05:00 Behind the scenes of the documentary

06:05 The making of the documentary

13:36 Jill's Antarctic dive experience

15:07 The impact of climate change on diving

18:00 Touring the documentary

18:58 Challenges in the media landscape

19:37 The future of documentary streaming

21:35 The evolution of exploration and science

21:57 Navigating career advice for young explorers

23:48 Early challenges and determination

27:55 Facing life-threatening situations

36:41 Reflections on exploration and ethics

42:22 Concluding thoughts and future plans