Today we’re joined by Sarah Ramsey, the host of the podcast Toxic Person Proof. Her podcast is about helping women remember how amazing they are after enduring pain at the hands of a toxic partner, parent, coworker or friend. But while her podcast may be aimed at women, I think the techniques she discusses for handling difficult people – and communicating with difficult people – are relevant for all genders.

We discuss how to identify toxic people, how to avoid them if you can, and how to deal with them when you must – even how to turn them into interesting, productive people.

Sarah is the author of “Becoming Toxic Person Proof: Clear the Confusion and Learn to Trust Yourself” which is available on Amazon or on her website, sarahkramsey.com. I hope you enjoy our conversation.

Thank you as always to Jim Cirillo at jimiumgroup.com for our original music and Rachel Greenberger for our original art.

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