The Unburdened Leader

The Unburdened Leader


Ep 50: Embracing the Hot Mess: A Special Anniversary Episode with Alison Cook, PhD

April 08, 2022

You carry life's burdens with you every day. Some days, they might feel heavy enough to break you.


But they also have the power to inspire you.


Your burdens are those difficult life experiences you’ve had. Our past pains can be the source of many of our recurring struggles. And they can also motivate us to do good in the world.


Coming to terms with our burdens–how they inspire us and how they continue to cause us pain–is a key step for allowing ourselves to be known and loved as we are.


Without recognizing our burdens, we can’t make ourselves open to intimate connections. 


This is the work of a lifetime.


Self-discovery takes time, and it doesn’t necessarily get any easier with age. But one way we can enhance the process is to listen to others tell their stories and share their burdens. 


And that’s been the goal of this podcast from Day 1. Today, I’m proud to be sharing our 50th episode with you.


My guest, Alison Cook, is a longterm friend and colleague and she’s interviewing me about the origin story of this podcast along with connecting the dots of my story that informs my work today.


Alison Cook, PhD is a counselor, speaker, and the author of two books, including her new book, The Best of You (coming September 2022) and Boundaries for Your Soul. For 20 years, Alison has helped women, ministry leaders, couples, and families learn how to heal painful emotions, develop confidence from the inside out, forge healthy relationships, and fully live out their God-given potential.


Listen to the full episode to hear:


  • Why starting a podcast felt like breaking the rules personally and professionally
  • How The Unburdened Leader is informed by IFS principles as well as a lifelong interest in the influence of people’s pain in their life’s work
  • How ambition got tangled with power and a need for control while working on the Hill
  • Why parenting led to a process of self-healing and a shifting definition of success


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