David Bazan is a singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist from Seattle Washington. For over 20 years he has recorded, toured and self-produced his bands Pedro The Lion , The Headphones and many variations of his solo efforts. In this episode, David and Joe discuss the possibility and culture of future touring with the news of a Covid-19 vaccine.  David tells us about the adjustments to his life during the pandemic, we get his love/hate take on Taylor Swifts album Folklore and he hints at a new Pedro The Lion record series.  Music by Pedro the Lion, David Bazan, Palm Fronds and Joe Plummer. Enjoy.