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THMG441 – CNG Portable Pipelines – Part 2

April 19, 2024

Bob was talking to Chief Dan Baker from New York States OFPC about a recent rash of emergencies on “portable pipelines”. Bob had never heard of this and was intrigued, so we naturally brought him and Chief Massaro from Schenectady Fire Department and FPS Chris Gould to explain this and break down 2 of these emergencies. The visuals in these 2 episodes are so good we’re making this FREEMIUM. So, watch rather than listen, if possible.


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 Episode Overview

In part two of our exploration into Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) Portable Pipelines, we continue our insightful discussion with Chief Dan Baker, Chief Dave Massaro, and Fire Protection Specialist Chris Gould. This episode dives deeper into the technicalities, challenges, and real-world incident responses involving CNG, augmented with video analyses that offer a rare glimpse into the dynamics of such emergencies.


 Segment Breakdown and Timestamps

- 00:00:18 - Introduction to the episode and guests.

- 00:00:42 - Recap of the incidents discussed in Schenectady and the introduction to video analysis.

- 00:01:16 - Detailed discussion on handling tanks individually in a cascade system damaged during an accident.

- 00:02:11 - Insights into the on-site decision-making process and the complexities involved in managing such incidents.

- 00:04:16 - Emphasis on the importance of intrinsic safety standards for equipment used on the scene.

- 00:05:22 - Challenges of protecting critical infrastructure during CNG emergencies.

- 00:07:02 - The choreography and rehearsal of safety procedures before venting CNG cylinders.

- 00:08:31 - Discussion on the mix of technicians involved and the planning before executing venting operations.

- 00:10:04 - Introduction to another visually captivating incident involving a CNG vehicle and a train.

- 00:11:36 - Examination of a residential neighborhood incident with a CNG vehicle hitting a train underpass.

- 00:13:15 - Discussion on the immediate and explosive impact of the collision and the resulting fire.

- 00:14:01 - Strategies employed by first responders to manage the fire and protect the bridge.

- 00:15:42 - Discussion on the fusible plugs of the CNG trailer and the controlled venting process.

- 00:17:16 - Visual evidence of the force of the explosion and the spread of debris.

- 00:18:08 - Detailed view of the ERG recommendations and the actual impact of cylinder ruptures.

- 00:20:25 - Analysis of the potential dangers from shrapnel and pressure waves during the incident.

- 00:22:12 - Final thoughts on the incident, including unconventional testing of the bridge's integrity post-event.


 Key Moments and Insights

- The importance of individual tank handling during emergencies and the collaborative decision-making process highlighted at 00:01:16.

- A rare look into the rehearsal of emergency venting operations at 00:07:02, showcasing the detailed planning and safety precautions taken.

- The unique challenge presented by a CNG vehicle hitting a train underpass, sparking an explosive fire, as discussed starting at 00:10:04.

- Insightful analysis at 00:18:08 on the real-world application of ERG guidelines and the unexpected trajectory and impact of CNG cylinders during emergencies.

- The innovative method of testing bridge integrity using locomotives at 00:22:12, following a significant CNG-related fire.


 Resource Links and References

- Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) Safety Guidelines

- Emergency Response Guidebook (ERG)


 Guest Information

- Chief Dan Baker

- Chief Dave Massaro

- Fire Protection Specialist Chris Gould


 Concluding Summary and Call to Action

This episode offered an in-depth look at the complexities and dangers of responding to Compressed Natural Gas (CNG) Portable Pipeline emergencies. Through real-world incidents and expert analysis, we've seen the importance of preparation, teamwork, and innovation in ensuring public and responder safety. We encourage our listeners to engage with the content, seek further education on CNG incidents, and always prioritize safety in their response strategies.


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