Manoush Zomorodi and Jen Poyant, formerly of WNYC's Note to Self, join me on Ep. 154 to talk about their new show, ZigZag. This is a new show like you haven't heard before!  We talk about Manoush and Jen's startup, Stable Genius Productions, making a narrative podcast, the blockchain, joining Radiotopia and so much more!  This is a must-listen!  Share this one with all your friends looking for a new show to check out!