we had numerous chances to meet each other, but never did. we got reintroduced through the podcast community and both of us decided it was time to have a conversation.

one of the things I was interested in talking to her about was whether she had gleaned any insights from talking to so many  of the leaders in the industry of self help around the topic of fear.
I could tell you more but I think it better if you listen in to see what we talked about  . . .