In this episode, we spoke to Rhia Nix about the challenges created by COVID-19 for small business and the call to simplicity that some are responding to aid the crisis. Rhia and her husband, Francesco Laera are the owners of Trulli Woodfire Pizzeria, Gusto Gelateria and the Meeniyan Pantry and Cellar. in Meeniyan in South Gippsland. The first half of this conversation was all about the challenges for local business, while the latter part (starting 47:50) explores the question of what might we do differently beyond the crisis.