Behind the Page: The Eli Marks Podcast
Episode 310: Ventriloquist Jay Johnson and Puppet Master Gordon Smuder … and an Eli Marks short mystery!
Returning guest Jay Johnson and long-time pal Gordon Smuder join us to talk about puppets, ventriloquism, Soap, and many other topics The Death of the Black Knight starts at 00:05:29The Jay Johnson/Gordon Smuder interview starts at 00:45:22LIN