We talk about what it takes to get "that big break." What does that mean? And who's been doing a lot of lording? And does your break need Star Trek?

* !! Semi-spoiler alerts for… Mad Men and General Hospital! Whaaa?  !!
* Old Business

* Sean drops a name he dropped before: Dave Smith, professor at Ball State, who helped Sean get his break

* What it means to break into Hollywood

* Dave Letterman gives Sean a scholarship
* More name dropping: Jeff Parise 
* What is the “big break?"

* at 15:00 — hardware goes haywire! Sorry about that...

* We mix metaphors like a DJ mixes language tapes
* Grandpa’s advice on expecting and using downtime
* An aside about shifts in casting bias
* Adaptation by Spike Jones. A great movie. A must see.
* How PJ got his job at Foundation Imaging

* Foundation Imaging 
* Ron Thornton 
* Paul Bryant 
* Rob Bonchune
* Mojo

* SciFi Channel (now SyFy, of course) Exposure
* Efram's entry

* 405, the short

* Bruce Brannit
* 2G Digital Post
* SnP work
* Me, Myself & Irene
* This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps
* Project Greenlight, Season 2
* Efram and Kyle's entry video
* And their Project Greenlight challenge video

* And the new series, on HBO

* Ray Wise
* And some short films Efram made, back in the day:

* Pennyweight, the short film
* They Came To Attack Us, another short film
* Alias, The Lost Episode

* Sean's internship with Edgar Sherick

* Peter Lamont
* Charles Lee

* The takeaway: If you wanna make movies or VFX, you gotta make movies or make VFX!