We're joined by @PatrickTShep to talk about union organizing. John talks about the horrors of seeing Grenfell tower firsthand. We make fun of another shitty New York Times op-ed and Joe Biden.

After the show Patrick remembered the "three magic answers" to use with skeptical colleagues when you're organizing: 1. Power, 2. Democracy, 3. "Everyone's doing it".

Don't forget to follow John and Edwin on twitter for all your shitposting needs: @falsecorn, @WikipediaSocist