We're about to enter into that special time of year that is full of holiday cheer, and so we are going to try to celebrate it well here on the podcast. But in order to really kick it off well, we felt the best way to do it was to ask the man who loves Christmas more than anyone else to join us for the conversation. This week, Ronnie Martin, pastor at Substance Church, author and co-author of several books, and the co-host of The Happy Rant Podcast and The Art of Pastoring, joins us to talk all things merry and bright. Listen in as we discuss:

The question Aaron's been saving for Ronnie for more than a year

When is the appropriate time to start celebrating Christmas (and for how long)

How to pronounce "accreditation"

The best Christmas books and authors

Ronnie's favorite type of Christmas persecution

Defining what makes a Christmas movie (and why they only make superhero movies)

The start of a grassroots campaign to get Ronnie's future festive book, The Christmas Tree Farm, published

The godfather of Christmas stories

A few of the books mentioned on the show

The Best Gift Ever Given by Ronnie Martin

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk MD

Every Moment Holy by McKelvey Davis

No One Asked For This by Cazzie David

A Promised Land by Barack Obama

Batman: The Three Jokers by Geoff Johns & Jason Fabok

A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens

The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien

A Wild Winter Swan by Gregory Maguire

Spirit of Steamboat by Craig Johnson

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