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Intro:
Welcome to the Practical Tax podcast, with tax attorney Steve Moskowitz. The Practical Tax podcast is brought to you by Moskowitz, LLP, a tax law firm.

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Chip Franklin:
Welcome to another edition of Practical Tax with tax attorney Steve Moskowitz. Steve, as you always say, there's so many ways you can look at a subject and somehow taxes creep in there. And this is one of those cases today, I think that when we look at it, our first guest is a leader in training and business development, but it gets even more interesting. Listen to this. He was a Yale grad and a grad from Columbia Business School. He also was a closer drafted in 2008 by the Detroit Tigers, a major league baseball coach.
Anyway, interesting stuff. After baseball, he was an intelligence officer for the Department of Defense. He co-founded a thing called Block Party, which changed the way tailgating partnerships are developed in division one colleges and got a direct commission into the US Navy as a reserve intelligence officer, where he currently serves as a lieutenant. But we're talking to him today because he moved back to New York City after the pandemic and started OneRange, which is an early stage workforce development tech company. That's a big intro. And his name is Steve Gilman. He's here with us on Practical Tax. Steve, thanks for being here.

Steve Gilman:
Hey, thanks for having me. Happy Friday.

Chip Franklin:
First of all, thank you for your service.

Steve Gilman:
Indeed.

Chip Franklin:
Yeah, really indeed. It's interesting too that I wonder if any of the acumen that you've picked up in the intelligence areas of your service have paid off in business?

Steve Gilman:
Yeah, I'd hope so. But I'm finding new ways every day to translate some of the skills. Intelligence is specifically interesting within the military and civilian world, because you meet a diverse group of individuals with diverse thoughts. So a lot of what we're doing has to do with cross-functional teams, getting different ideas into different stages and then doing a lot of analysis, which plays into every day, every little piece of what I do in the business world.

Chip Franklin:
Sounds a little bit like what you do as well, Steve. I mean, obviously analysis is a big part of it.

Steve Moskowitz:
Thank you.

Chip Franklin:
Yeah. Well, let me ask you both this question, before we get into the details here. What is the future of work as we see it today? Let me start with you, Steve.

Steve Moskowitz:
Work has a lot of aspects to it. There's obviously the business aspect, the personal aspect. This is the personal society. That's what a lot of people don't realize and they think of work just as the business part. They don't realize how much socializing goes on. They don't realize how much it's all part of your life. And a lot of times when people retire, they find out they're so empty because all their social contacts are gone. And a lot of people, if they identify themselves through their work, they just feel empty. And a lot of times healthy people, when they retire, they start becoming ill because there's just no purpose for them anymore. So there's an awful lot to work. Plus, besides making money, there's a lot of good you can do in the world.

Chip Franklin:
Mr. Gilman, since you're both Steve,