Vanessa Colella and I talk about what creative collaborators can learn from science, complex systems and being a marketer who manages multiple agencies.

Before CITI, Vanessa spent time as the "Entrepreneur in Residence" at the venture capital and private equity firm USVP, the SVP of Insights at Yahoo, a partner at McKinsey and a teacher of middle school science and high school biology.

You can learn more about Vanessa here.

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