Original Air Date 5/14/2018

We discuss one of the most pivotal moments in our childhood. In 1992 we moved to Utah to live near our grandpa. We were 10 and 8 years old. Our step-father was just dishonorably discharged from the Navy and unable to get a job. Our mother had her first psychotic break, that we can remember. And they both gave up on their roles as parents. It became the end of what was left of our childhood and the beginning of new forms of abuse and abandonment.