On today’s episode, I would like to tell you a story. It’s the story of a lunch meeting I had 15 years ago with Mark Dever and Garrett Kell. The lessons I learned that day are lessons that continue to resonate with me and are lessons I believe the church needs to learn.

On today’s program I mentioned that Garrett Kell’s daughter Eden is facing severe health challenges. To find out more, please click here.

To see a written version of today’s podcast episode, click here.

The producers for today’s program are Rich Roszel and Jeff McIntosh.

Until next time, may God bless you.