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Sorry for the delay in this podcast, but I think it is worth the wait.

For Episode #9, Joe and Derek take a much deserved break and I am joined by Ben Cook (https://twitter.com/skitzzo) and Kenny Hyder (https://twitter.com/kennyhyder).

Ben is involved with SEO Coaches  (http://www.seocoaches.com/)

Kenny runs his own agency at http://hyder.me/ (http://hyder.me/).

The guys help me discuss Facebook's ever expanding walled garden, and how Google is making similar plays. We all discuss whether we would each punch, marry, or hire Rand Fishkin.