In this episode, Joey joined Shahin to talk about Kanban; and indulge in in-depth conversation with select audiences.

Kanban as a Method vs a Tool
Upstream and Delivery Stream
Stealth Kanban
KLR - Kanban Week
Q&A with JoeyScrum and/vs Kanban in large organizations 
Kanban in Transformation world 
Chaos being hidden as Expedie

The following books we have referenced:

Upstream Kanban
Kanban essential guide
Kanban Blue Book
Agile Management Book
Fit For Purpose

We mentioned the following people:

Mike Burrows (Also)
Klaus Leopold
Alexei Zheglov