In this episode, Haley talks with whole systems design practitioner, educator, speaker, regenerative development consultant, and author, Dr. Daniel Wahl. Wahl shares stories from learning about complexity science, holistic science, and whole systems health, and how this journey inspired him to study natural design. During his interview Wahl says, “design is human intention expressed through interactions and relationships. It touches almost everything.” He also expresses his love for biomimicry and Gaia.