Hedwig has a long and in-depth interview with internationally renowned kinbaku artists Kanna and Kagura.

They cover not only the usual questions about rope training, education, and performance, but also deeper topics such as what goes into an intense rope partnership and Kanna's experience coming out as transgender in the Japanese rope community. They also talk about rope injury, the roots of hojo jutsu, and the fun of "going hard" (semeru).

It is one of the most touching and personal interviews ever put on the Ropecast, and we are immensely grateful to Hedwig, Kanna-san and Kagura-san for sharing it with us. Below is an example of their performance style.

Nawashi Kanna & Kagura performing at the II. Viennese Rope Festival (March2014) from Shibari Dojo Vienna on Vimeo.

In order to preserve the words of the bakushi and model in their own voices, this podcast was produced with minimal editing. Feedback? E-mail Graydancer!