Johnny and Alex are joined by Dr. Trek himself, Larry Nemecek, the man behind The Trek Files Podcast, the Trekland Tuesdays YouTube livestream, and Portal 47, the most in-depth experience you can have a Star Trek fan (portal47.com).

We talk episode 2.12 of Star Trek: Discovery, "Through the Valley of Shadows," our likes, dislikes, and, most importantly, our shared grief that Captain Pike doesn't live forever.