Welcome to episode 27 of the Chief Sinner podcast! Shaun Shahan joins me in this episode, or maybe I joined him. I'm not sure. Susan and I are normally the interviewers but in this episode, Shaun wanted to interview me about my story, which I guess makes him the host! Shaun asked me some questions about my journey into and back out of pastoral ministry and some of my experiences and thoughts as a former pastor who found himself in performance-based Christianity. We had a great time talking and I hope you enjoy it with us. Thanks Shaun!!Music: KaskadeIntro:Val Flynn-Mike