Dave talks to us about how playing woodwind instruments informed the way he approaches singing and composition, and warns us about how woodwinds can conflict with vocals. He then gives us his formula for using woodwinds in a band setting, describing not only where to play but where not to play.

As a huge fan of woodwind instruments, Dave gives us a bunch of practical steps for incorporating note-readers into the (chart or ear-based) worship setting, and points us towards the free notation software Musc Score 2.0.

Along the way we discuss the difference between Handels Messiah, Watermusic, Fireworksmusic, as well as the difference between Bach's Brandenburg Concertos and his St John Passion, and Dave gives a big shout out to Bach Collegium Japan version of the latter.