Out Of Darkness, Into The Light

Out Of Darkness, Into The Light


How To Think Straight 2:the one Israel,Christology & Holy Spirit plurality

August 03, 2013

This is part two of a conversation that took place on March 5 2013. Rex and Hector were on the call with Dave as he decided to get some exercise while doing a podcast. SUBJECTS DISCUSSED IN PART 2:The ancient teacher/student relationship,the lack of authoritative teachers beyond the 1st century,the mistranslation of the word Gentile,the biblical concept that the Old and New Covenants are made with a bloodline,False Jews,racial issues and programming,the one Israel that embraces all humanity,the aberrant Christian Identity movement,the artificial construct of the Gentile Church,church attendance and the unbiblical concept of church buildings,the belief that institutional Christianity is a false religion,evidence that the 1st century cataclysm was more severe than Noah's Flood (Zeph 1:2-3 cf. Matt 24;21),significant fulfillment in the 1st century that is commonly ignored by Christians,the absolute necessity of extra-biblical revelation,the rarely discussed concept that God became a sinless man rather than a God-Man and the view that the Son was fully God both before and after his incarnation,the lack of constructive criticism about the doctrine of the Trinity since the Council of Chalcedon,the belief that all Christian denominations fall short of the apostolic standard for heresy,the lack of scriptural evidence that Arianism is a heresy,the Trinitarian problem in 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 that identifies the Holy Spirit with the Son,the forgotten Hebrew view that the Holy Spirit is associated with plurality and the host of heaven in certain contexts,singularity and plurality in the Body of Christ (earthly) and the Spirit of Christ (heavenly) that includes all the angels (Elohim),the belief that the so-called "Underground Stream" is a source of prophetic information that will eventually be made public and the need for extra-revelation to interpret double fulfilments in scripture.

We can see in the following passage that the New Covenant was made with "the house of Israel and the house of Judah." We need to be careful and avoid the error of Replacement Theology which applies this passage and all other Old Testament prophecies to the "Gentile dominated Church." Jeremiah 31:27-31 says:"Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast.And it shall come to pass that as I have watched over them to pluck up and break down, to overthrow, destroy, and bring harm, so I will watch over them to build and to plant, declares the LORD.In those days they shall no longer say: "'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge.'But everyone shall die for his own sin. Each man who eats sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge.Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah." (ESV)

Here's one of a number of articles on the internet that exposes the rarely heard concept that the Latin word "Gentile" is a radical corruption of the original language. Most of these articles are written by professing Christians who have an unbalanced view on racial issues unfortunately, partially because they've discovered this truth.
http://www.firstchurchoftheinternet.org/studies/jmgentile.htm

On the subject of the Holy Spirit having a plural nature in certain contexts in relation to the host of heaven, note Hebrews 12:1 where the Sprit and the angels are mentioned as a single entity:"Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses..." (Cf. Ex 33:8-10,ect. "pillar of cloud")
NOTE: While Dave introduced a rarely heard view of the true nature of Israel keep in mind that position is not adequately explained until later podcasts UPDATE:Connie's back on Facebook and Rachel joined recently as well. Here's a link to a Facebook group of ours that has recently been made public: https://www.facebook.com/groups/OutofDarknessN2Light/
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