In part one of our interview with medical ethics professor Aaron Kheriaty, we discussed natural immunity, vaccine efficacy, and his lawsuit challenging his university’s vaccine mandates.

Now in part two, we discuss perverse incentives involved in the vaccine rollout, the ethics of testing COVID-19 vaccines on children, and the rise of what he calls “biosecurity surveillance.”

Dr. Kheriaty is a professor of psychiatry at the University of California–Irvine’s School of Medicine and director of the Medical Ethics Program at UCI Health.