Here’s my conversaion from back in February (2020), aka a zillion lifetimes ago, with podcaster, Maximum Fun creator, and, perhaps most publicly, Judge John Hodgman bailiff Jesse Thorn. That's him with the glorious facial hair, above. (photo: Ibarionex Perello)It’s nice, you’ll like it.Re: my callout to you all in the intro, you can reach me at info@15minutesjamieberger.com or find me on Insta or twitter at @15minsjamieb.Thanks!-jb See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.