Vertical Playpen
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Lisa Hunt - High 5 - Trainer
Lisa talks to Phil about garden gnomes, her hopes for the future of this industry and our role in helping new facilitators. They also masterfully deal with a mid-interview interruption.
Lisa talks to Phil about garden gnomes, her hopes for the future of this industry and our role in helping new facilitators. They also masterfully deal with a mid-interview interruption.