Naomi Marquez and Mandi Benecke sit down with Michael L Boucher to discuss his new book, More than an ally: A caring solidarity framework for White teachers of African American students gives White teachers a path to move beyond empathy to solidarity with their students and communities. He explores the concepts of solidarity and allyship, challenging White teachers to abandon solidarity with whiteness and dismantle the systems that alienate, oppress, and incarcerate Black and Brown young people.