The Ugly Podcast

The Ugly Podcast


Saying the Quiet Part Loud w/ Sabrina Estudillo Butler

February 19, 2024

In this episode, I talk with fellow editor and book coach, Sabrina Estudillo Butler, about standing in our values and saying the quiet part loud. We discuss how it feels in our bodies when we step out of our comfort zones and speak up about injustice and the inner criticism that inevitably pops up when we are new or feel like an imposter. We touch on the issues in publishing as a white, cis, straight, able-body-centered industry, and why it’s so important to speak about these topics to effectuate change.


Whenever we dare to say something important and lean into our values, I firmly believe we make the world a little better. And it’s scary to do that! Which is why I wanted to have this conversation with Sabrina to talk about doing the scary thing anyway and how it feels in the moment, amid the transformation.


You can learn more about Sabrina’s work on her website unpolishedwords.com and follow her on social media for more: @unpolishedwords on Instagram and Sabrina Estudillo Butler on LinkedIn.


References:
Juno Creative
PEN America Report: Reading Between the Lines
Open Letter Criticising PEN America’s Stance on Israel-Gaza War Reaches 500 Signatures