It used to be that children were the natural "next step" for committed couples, Now, many are choosing (or in some cases, having the choice made for them) to delay having kids or not to have them at all.

We talk to several couples, and a few experts, about what that decision can look like.

Joining us on this episode are Dr. Jeanne Safer, author of Beyond Motherhood, and Laura Carroll, author of the Baby Matrix, who share some wonderful wisdom on topics like: the role of women in the world, how to deal with shame before peers, the biological desire for kids, and how to go about making the decision to become or not to become a parent.

Check out links as well as a bonus mini episode where Erica and Christina talk about their feelings on motherhood, all on our website at thisishomepodcast.org