Seems like everyone wants to be an entrepreneur these days. Is it possible to build a new biz while still working your other job and paying the bills?

My guest is Tommy Griffith. He used to head up SEO at PayPal and Airbnb One day he realized he wanted to do more. He started a side gig called clickminded.com. His journey took many years to see that initial side gig become a full-time career that paid his bills, covered his lifestyle and generated revenue even when he wasn't working 80 hours/week.