In this podcast episode, Kyle Davis, Director of Public Affairs, engages in a conversation with Ken Girardin, Director of Research, to explore the borrowing practices of New York highlighted in the Empire Center article "Snips, Strikes and Skaters: NY Borrows To Cover Its Pork Habit."

They analyze the allocation of nearly $200 million in borrowed state funds by New York lawmakers and Governor Hochul, discussing specific projects like the $125,000 state-funded bowling alley. The episode provides insights into the implications and history of government pork-barrel spending in New York.