On this podcast of The Exchange with Ed Stetzer: 
Lead Pastor of National Community Church and bestselling author Mark Batterson met with Ed to discuss leading a church in the nation’s capitol, setting God-sized goals, and living for the applause of the One with nail-scarred hands.
Connect with Pastor Mark
MarkBatterson.com
Facebook.com/markbatterson
Twitter.com/MarkBatterson
Instagram.com/markbatterson
Also, on the program:

* From The Gospel Project: The biblical basis for developing church leaders with Pastor Thabiti Anyabwile
* Biola professor Dr. Alan McMahan weighs the possibility of growing a church without God
* Bad church signs