In this episode we get deep into the state of the VR industry and community as we chat with VRTO and FIVARS founder Keram Malicki-Sánchez.

In this episode we hear from Jaron Lanier at his Tribeca Film Festival Talk. He discusses the implications of AI to our reality and social paradigms. We also cover other relevant topics like Jamie Metzl's book Hacking Darwin and MIT researcher Lex Freidme

We discuss AWE - Augmented World Expo - with Ori Inbar, it's co-founder and chat about the history of AR and the industry.