Returning guest Dr. Liz Ciabocchi joins hosts Kelvin and Tom to consider the current state of diversity and inclusivity within the ranks of online learning leaders. While a sobering conversation to be sure, this episode is filled with data and optimism. This episode was recorded in front of a live audience at the 2019 OLC IELOL Immersion Experience. For show notes and interaction opportunities, please visit: http://cdl.ucf.edu/topcast-s05e53/