Steve McDonald has covered the Rock n Roll gamut. It began when he and his brother started the influential hardcore band Red Cross when Steve was 11 years old. Since then he has toured the world, stopped touring to produce records, and started up again with not one, but three touring bands, The Melvins, Off! and Redd Kross. Steve tells Joe what he's doing to cope with being "grounded" during the pandemic, how he feels about our chaotic election and why he feels fortunate despite these unpredictable times.  Episode sponsored by The Red E Cafe, Portland, Oregon.  Music by Redd Kross, Red Cross, Joe Plummer and Palm Fronds. Enjoy.