Natalie Vardabasso is one of my favorite education minds and overall cool humans that I've been lucky enough to meet. We first connected through Twitter (@natabasso) and we are truly kindred minds. This conversation happened a WHILE ago (shoutout to my doctoral program), but you all need to know her work, no matter how long it's taken.

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