Today I chat with chaplain, speaker, singer and all-around awesome guy Brian Spahr!

Brian and I talk about the most frustrating, and funny, stories about church ministry and Brian gives the low-down on being a hospital chaplain. We delve deep into 'stepping into the sacred' in ministry, as well as 'listening for the sacred' in music and art. Brian talks about creating safe spaces in grief and he gives me the low-down on his brand-new book Don't You Care That We Are Drowning?...which is a look at the not-so pretty prayers we cry out during times when life hits hard.

Also in this episode...

And...not buts, knowing God in our pain, the brilliance of The Accidentals and David Wilcox, and all things Star Wars.

Quote:

"Musts, shoulds, and have-tos have no place in grace." ~Brian Spahr

Links:

www.BrianSpahrCreative.com

www.TaraJohnsonStories.com

Buy link for Don't You Care That We Are Drowning?:

Don't You Care That We Are Drowning? (And Other Unexpected Prayers): Spahr, Brian B: 9798799428877: Amazon.com: Books